Mental health is such a wonderful field to be involved in, but in our schooling, we are not typically taught about the business side of running a private practice. In this episode, Dr. Graham Taylor speaks with Joe Sanok, the creator behind the practice of the practice. Joe is a speaker, a mental health counselor business consultant, and a podcaster. In 2012, Joe started the practice of the practice podcast and it's become the number one podcast for counselors in private practice, helping private practice clinicians find innovative ways to start and to grow and scale the private practice. Together they walk through the offerings of Practice of the Practice and how practitioners in the various stages of their career can rethink their private practice and align their work in unique ways that are successful and fulfilling.