How are people most motivated? They're motivated by feeling invested, having that engagement, being in the same head space as the person helping them and having their thoughts considered. In this episode, Dr. Erin Elmore speaks with Pam Pietruszewski, MA. Pam has more than 30 years’ experience designing and implementing programs to integrate behavioral health and primary care services. Her work includes the program Getting Candid: Framing the Conversation Around Youth Substance Use Prevention funded by the CDC, and DIAMOND, a depression care management program that received the 2010 Gold Award from the American Psychiatric Association. Pam holds a master’s degree in counseling and psychological services and is a member of the national Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT). Together Erin and Pam discuss the spirit of motivational interviewing, the power of reflective listening, change talk, and how to use motivational interviewing to maintain your new year’s resolutions. The normal natural evolution of any self-improvement is tracking the small steps along the way. And Motivational Interviewing helps facilitate that.